More Mondial please

Vince · Post by **Vince** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:18 am

After seeing all those parts, I just had to make an animation out of them - gears spinning, springs compressing, cams turning...

The application I use is Cinema 3D:

http://www.maxon.net/pages/products/cin ... a4d_e.html

There are a few other programs with similar capabilities but this works for me.

- Vince

Tom Wilson · Post by **Tom Wilson** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:29 am

Vince - After seeing your animations, I just had to see them again. And again. And again. I still do not fully understand the chicklets thing, but I learned from the last animation that if I watch long enough, I will get it.

Enough for now, I gotta watch it again...

Admiral Goodwrench · Post by **Admiral Goodwrench** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:22 pm

John Vardanian wrote: Did you plate the springs and the other parts or just cleaned them?

Dear John,

The springs and other parts were cleaned and then treated with the black oxide finish and penetrating oil sealant. The BX cable covering on the brake lines was cleaned and covered with clear finish. The brass connectors were polished.

Best regards,

Tom Wilson · Post by **Tom Wilson** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:45 pm

The BX cable covering on the brake lines was cleaned and covered with clear finish. The brass connectors were polished.

Wow, I guess oil, dirt and grease is a preservative!

Tom Wilson · Post by **Tom Wilson** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:46 pm

By the way, where do I get black oxide finish and penetrating oil sealant? Sounds like useful stuff.

Admiral Goodwrench · Post by **Admiral Goodwrench** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:58 am

Tom Wilson wrote:where do I get black oxide finish and penetrating oil sealant? Sounds like useful stuff.

Dear Tom,

Several sources, Caswell and Eastwood for starters.

http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/black.htm

Best regards

Tom Wilson · Post by **Tom Wilson** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:03 pm

The Caswell product looks easier to use on multiple parts. The Eastwood process has too many steps for the number of bolts we have that should use this coating. I'll give it a try!

TOMKIZER · Post by **TOMKIZER** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:30 pm

Or you can just drop by your local sporting goods store and buy a tube of gun blue (it's really black oxide) and do it yourself quickly, then use your penetrating oil to keep it from rusting. It only works on stuff with iron in it. These cars don't get ignored long enough to rust anyway.
Tom Kizer

Admiral Goodwrench · Post by **Admiral Goodwrench** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:58 pm

TOMKIZER wrote:Or you can just drop by your local sporting goods store and buy a tube of gun blue (it's really black oxide) ...Tom Kizer

Dear Tom,

True, the Birchwood-Casey gun blueing products work as well. The tube contains the gel version and the bottle has the familiar liquid. One caution, this stuff is acid and you must take the standard precautions.

Best regards,

Tom Wilson · Post by **Tom Wilson** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:11 pm

buy a tube of gun blue (it's really black oxide) and do it yourself quickly, then use your penetrating oil to keep it from rusting.

Ok, I can certainly get gun blue, which I would assume is cheaper than the Eastwood product. So what do I do; dip the bolts in the stuff, then spray them with penetrating oil?

peterp · Post by **peterp** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:39 am

This is interesting stuff. Does the Black Oxide require the penetrating oil to applied on a regular basis, or is it a one time application.? I guess I'm trying to determine whether the black oxide is cosmetic or provides some corrosion protection.

Tom Wilson · Post by **Tom Wilson** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:49 pm

It looks like the Caswell product is gun blue, the liquid form.

http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/black.htm

Admiral Goodwrench · Post by **Admiral Goodwrench** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:55 pm

peterp wrote:This is interesting stuff. Does the Black Oxide require the penetrating oil to applied on a regular basis, or is it a one time application.? I guess I'm trying to determine whether the black oxide is cosmetic or provides some corrosion protection.

Dear Peter,

The black oxide coating itself is minimally corrosion preventive but that property is significantly improved by the application of the penetrating oil. Periodic reapplication of the penetrating oil prolongs the corrosion resistance. The coating is very thin and so is the very slight penetration into the base metal

One item I did not mention earlier is the absolute necessity of having the parts to be treated really free of rust and oil/grease/dirt before you start the process. Each of the products mentioned come with specific details of the routine their particular manufacturer recommends and they do differ somewhat. Again, remember it is an acid.

Best regards,

Admiral Goodwrench · Post by **Admiral Goodwrench** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:01 pm

Dear fellow gearheads,

We certainly cannot let a whole page go by without a picture!
This is a shot of the clutch pressure plate assembly disassembled. It will take judicious use of some C clamps to get this back together again.

Best regards,

peterp · Post by **peterp** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:21 pm

Thanks for the info Robert. Absolutely beautiful work that you're doing on the Mondial