Bumper insulators

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Rob330
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Bumper insulators

Postby Rob330 » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:10 pm

I purchased insulators for the bumpers on my 1964 330gt and I am not sure if this is the correct one. The one on the right is the new one and on the left is one that came with the bumper.
I purchased the car with the bumpers off and this rubber was being kept in place by the bolt that went through it.I only have one of the old insulators. When I fit the bumper on the back and use the new rubbers there is a small gap between the bumper and insulator but if I use the one old rubber insulator it will not leave enough of a gap for another rubber to be installed.
Does anybody recognize the old one as correct or should I use the new ones. Also I only got one bolt for the bumper and it is obvious it was not original because it looks like 2 bolts welded together , does anybody know the length of the bolt I should use.

Thanks, Rob.
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tim
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Re: Bumper insulators

Postby tim » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:11 pm

Greetings... The shorter one on the right looks like the ones on my car, 5769. The small end should have a recess for a washer whilst the large end fits in the hole in the body. Later, I'll take one of the bolts out and let you know what size. Now I am going to take a nap after spending a great week end in Monterey.

Tim
1964 330GT 5769 -the big yellow taxi 61&66 Morgan +4's Daimler SP250 and some other dull stuff plus a brand new Mini Cooper S Clubman JCWS

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Re: Bumper insulators

Postby cory » Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:28 pm

Hi Rob
I too used the ones on the right in your picture on 5749

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Re: Bumper insulators

Postby Rob330 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:49 am

Thanks for the input, if I could get the bolt and washer sizes that would be very helpful. My car is 5393 and we are in the paint prepping stages.

I have another mystery , in an old picture of my car it has a Ferrari shield and America emblems mounted next to the left side tail light .
The holes look original but I have not seen this on any other 330gt , would this have been something someone put on after it left the factory or is it possible it came with these from Maranello ? My car is early production , I think 17th one made and possibly one of the first in North America.
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Re: Bumper insulators

Postby cory » Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:19 am

This was added on after by an enthusiastic owner...

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Re: Bumper insulators

Postby tim » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:35 pm

Greetings... I've removed a rear bolt and it is 8mm by 45mm, threaded full length. The washer measures 35mm and there are 2, one on the inside of the trunk and one in a recess on the small side of the rubber insulator that goes agains the bumper bracket. There is also a steel sleeve inside the insulator that is 14mm outside diameter, about 10-11mm inside diameter, and 27mm long. This bushing prevents you from over tightening the bolt and pulling the bumper too close to the body.

Hope that helps, Tim
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Re: Bumper insulators

Postby tim » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:36 pm

Greetings... Also, the washers are about 2mm thick, thicker than a normal washer.

Tim
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Re: Bumper insulators

Postby Yale » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:59 pm

Woah, you bought the Petroske Wicker Car, supposedly the Paris show car, but maybe not. Was the engine with it when you bought it?
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Re: Bumper insulators

Postby Rob330 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:30 pm

Thank you for the bolt and washer sizes, I didn't even realize there was a suppose to be a sleeve in there.

Yes I have the Petoske car and I did not get the original engine . I did speak to the lady that has my engine in her car, so it still exists .

I do have a correct engine to put in it that is about 60 numbers past my serial number.

Should I be convinced that this car did not come with that badge on the back ? Then someone did a very proper installation ...

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Re: Bumper insulators

Postby tyang » Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:37 am

Rob330 wrote:Thank you for the bolt and washer sizes, I didn't even realize there was a suppose to be a sleeve in there.

Yes I have the Petoske car and I did not get the original engine . I did speak to the lady that has my engine in her car, so it still exists .

I do have a correct engine to put in it that is about 60 numbers past my serial number.

Should I be convinced that this car did not come with that badge on the back ? Then someone did a very proper installation ...


Hi Rob,

In the Ferrari world, never say never, but how hard would it be to have a previous owner drill holes in the back panel to install a 330 America badge and have it look "factory?" SI 330s didn't come with exterior badging like many 2+2s, so from the evidence of the huge SF shield, I think a previous owner wanted to guild his car with any badge that he could get his hands on. Just saying...

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Re: Bumper insulators

Postby Rob330 » Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:55 pm

I guess the wicker covering the sides of the car should have been a hint. I am at the point to fill in the holes so I just wanted to be 100% that
I am doing the right thing.

I have another thing I wanted to bring up but I may be opening a big can of worms. What color to paint the car , it was Marrone or Brown . Not sure if it would be my first choice for a color I would pick on this car but Steve McQueens Lusso was the same color and it looks beautiful.

I cant find a lot of pictures of Ferrari's in this color but there have been some recent ones of the McQueen Lusso and it looks great . But there are a lot of really good colors of Ferrari's in 1964 , some great blues and greens.

The interior was redone by the previous owner in a light tan , opinions are appreciated.

Rob.

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Re: Bumper insulators

Postby afwrench » Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:59 am

Hi Rob ,if you go to 365gtc4.com and click on Details you will see a number of cars in Marrone along with lots of other non Red colors. Good luck,Mike
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Re: Bumper insulators

Postby Rob330 » Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:19 pm

I did not see any Marrone ones, the color card didn't have any cars to go with it.

There are a lot of really nice color choices .

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Re: Bumper insulators

Postby afwrench » Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:32 pm

Hi Rob, as of yesterday there was a C4 for sale on ebay in Marrone. Lots of very good pictures. Good luck, Mike
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Re: Bumper insulators

Postby Rob330 » Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:53 pm

I have all the hardware figured out but I still have a problem . It appears that 2 of the bumper brackets are wrong , 2 of them will work on the front or back but 2 will not. Are the bumper brackets the same front and rear ? If they are I can replicate them , if they are different maybe someone can tell me the difference so I can figure out what I have .

Thanks so far . Rob.


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