Preproduction 0891GT versus S1 PF coupe

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Preproduction 0891GT versus S1 PF coupe

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There is not much org material known for PF coupe owners.
In the past I could only find the sales brochures and PF part book and the maintananceinstruction.
Now I found some org period 6x6 cm detail negativs of probebly 0891GT in the show room in Milano or Turino.
I will schow them here with some changes they did when the real production started.
for those who reataurated there PF now Peter G. Kerry C. John V. Chris C and all the others.
the negativs come from Ricarrdo Moncalvo.
The same car can be probebly found in the PF bible by Etienne Cornil
But car is publisched WITHOUT drumms and two ear knock offs!
hope you enjoy
Can do this in one day
will be continued
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Re: Preproduction 0891GT versus S1 PF coupe

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For those who cannot wait
The first one.
I wrote can do this in one day that was a typo.
C.

P.S
look at the real ? art on the wall.
its a pity the i must delarg this pics.
big F- logo on window in the back
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Re: Preproduction 0891GT versus S1 PF coupe

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Hi Cornelis,

Thanks for sharing!

This picture answers John V.'s question on how shiny the Borranis were when these cars were new. They look pretty shiny to me! The grille as well.

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Re: Preproduction 0891GT versus S1 PF coupe

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What can be said about the detailing on pic 1?
The front indictor or parking lights are from Triberti not from Carello.
Orange or red ones were used on German deliverd cars
Triberti can be found mainly on special biuld PF' s( Prince Bertil and Bernard etc)
and standard on Vignale.
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Re: Preproduction 0891GT versus S1 PF coupe

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Next one

Interior mirror .
Is supplied by an englisch supplier.
The S1 did have the moveble up and down attached mirror can be found also on early SWB.
The later S2 PF did get the intergrated map lamp in it
0981gt see below
No PF script on front wings btw

Here the first mirrors
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Re: Preproduction 0891GT versus S1 PF coupe

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Pic 2
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Re: Preproduction 0891GT versus S1 PF coupe

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the standard less attractive ones S1&S2
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Re: Preproduction 0891GT versus S1 PF coupe

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doorlatchers or catchers from Boano or Ellena

enough for today
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Re: Preproduction 0891GT versus S1 PF coupe

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Pic 3
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Re: Preproduction 0891GT versus S1 PF coupe

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This fuellid/door was made like the big competion-alulid priciple: with intergrated cap
PF S1&S2 did have a seprate cap see below.
Also seperate metal part under the dials to arrange the aux. switches
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Re: Preproduction 0891GT versus S1 PF coupe

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I allways was convinced that the dished -in Borranis knockoffs were used after 1960,
But were obviously available already in early 1958 .
Just got a PM by the one and only Kare P. :

"I have note saying that 0891GT was presented to
public in Milano, so I am pretty sure your pictures
show the car at Crepaldi's in Milano."

best
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Re: Preproduction 0891GT versus S1 PF coupe

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Forget buying the Ferrari in the foreground in 1958, what about the Cezanne or other impressionist painting on the wall!

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Re: Preproduction 0891GT versus S1 PF coupe

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Here the possible Borrani's knockoffs in 1958.

on the left the 3 ear on schown on the picture.
The standard diskbrake P2did use the convex 3 ears model
Drumms P1 normally with 2 ears convex all 42's
see below.


The one on the left looked after market produced to me.

Tomorrow more

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tyang wrote:Forget buying the Ferrari in the foreground in 1958, what about the Cezanne or other impressionist painting on the wall!

Tom

Tom, this is how POOR it looks today.
Foto found and provided by Kare P.

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